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The contemporary teachers in Advaita… most of them seems to have got it all wrong.
They dont recognice the possibility of the “pure seeing” to be just what it is. Without someone having an experience.
Ultimately, all there is, is One consciousness, in other words – universe have the ability to “see”.
When you stop becoming something (stop beeing a person with beliefs) you are just that one and only subject. If there were TWO you would be an object, but now there isnt two since the dance is one no matter how many dancers. There is change, and that means that the change IS change. Thats all it is. Its not movement relative to stillness. It IS change.
If you are this consciousness, there may very well be totally powerless mind telling stories about the strange “experience” of not having ANY experience at all.
That does not change that there is ONLY what is.
The possibility for a seen through “mind” to recall its own vanishing, and absence, later, does not change that tis consciousness have the ability to just SEE, without labeling this seeing.
It sees nothing. But its not blind. It sees all there is but without labels, its not a seeing of THINGS or labels or of its own seeing even. Never the less it is seeing.
But not someones experience.
If you have seen this, you know it. If you havent, you will indulge in intellectual debate about if there is someone having an experience.
We could even say that it actually is the experience of WHAT IS. But what good does that do, since there is noone else not having an experience. So the word experience becomes unvalid.
Lucille is a true advaita teacher. I like him. He know, and I know, that there is no him or me. Nor any teaching, no Advaita, no students. Only What IS and the seeing of what is.
/J
Seeingwhatis 
I guess answering doesnt happen. And fuck me if I care. If I care I am cooked 😀
hey mate. i linked u to a a youtube clip with rupert spira. he is a “student” and good friend of Lucille. LIstening to him made a lot of stuff experiental clear for me.
All the best
Yeah. I like him. But I like Lucille a little better. They are both advaita teachers. I like advaita teachers in general. Somewhere on the road, though, I think its time to skip the intellect.
Just breath and be quiet.
Still I enjoy pissing people off. Pissing of happens. Through “me”.
:- Thanks for commenting. Please comment more often. I would like that.
Good luck with whatever you are up to!
Hi,
I just came across your blog. It all rings true for me even if I have not experienced it all. I met Byron Katie over 15 years ago. Then, Ramanas teaching were too complex for me. I couldn’t ‘hear’ him. However, Katie’s expression of the same message was put in a context I could understand. Reading what you write reminds me of the initial days of meeting Katie. You speak almost the exact words. Did you have a spontaneous awakening like Katie and Eckhart?
Hi,
Yes I have become familiar with Katie and Eckhart’s awekenings through their books.
Yes, it was spontaneous and total. I don’t talk about it anymore, well, it happens that I do.
After that, there is no questions anymore, nor answers.I didn’t believe in enlightenment, but I had heard of Buddha 🙂 and guess I found it possible.
It just happened, first time I saw a video by Tony Parsons. Or the next day actually.
And continued to deepen for about 2 months.
Just pure seeing.
No focus at all.
No focus. Just everything. Free expansion. Free falling through life. No plan. No agenda. No-one. No reaction. No belief.
🙂 Thanks for your kind voice.
I love that.
One more thing, do you believe this is just a dream? And that we are not the doer.
And if so, can you elaborate? I cannot find anyone to explain that more deeply to me
But somehow sense I would find freedom if that was truth.
Thank you and peace.
Hi Tricia. We are not the doer. Because the believ that we are the doer, or that sometimg can be “done”, is a dream.
In that sense this is a dream.
That dream can be lifelong and starts when we start responding to our name, and then deepens.
If we don’t believe that, then its not a dream anymore. Well, at least then we know that our dreams are just dreams, so it is to be awake in a theatre play we don’t believe – but we still play along, since there is no belief in a doer. Got it? 🙂
This is easy to see, since its the original state of everyone.
You have been in this state thousand of times. But we don’t notice it, just because we are always looking for something.
It’s hard for people to notice “nothing”.
And to stay in emptiness until thoughts give up.
But it is totally possible. And it will solve all problems and end suffering.
Even if we end up poor, we will not suffer if we are free from belief in lack.
I love that also.
Thank you. Until next time. 🙂
And when you stay in the state of full acceptance and total surrender and non focus, but with faith, for a period of time, it will deepen. And everything is seen in a new “light” for the first time.
How to do this without wanting it or believing it?
Well… if we understand that “holding on to” is impossible – letting go as a non-action makes total sense.
Experientially you say 😀
That is great news,
thank you so much for sharing this with me.
Yeah for example. You hear about now, there is only now etcetcetc. Intellectually it makes sense I guess. But during one of his YouTube films something clicked and I experienced what he means. What I experience tho is those deep insights drop away and I can me just as worked up or fearfull by mind / world a day later. That’s just the way it works I guess
That is the only thing that can ever happen…
Read this carefully:
If you accept that that wonderful state of beeing may pass – then there is nothing left that will make it pass…
True and total acceptance…
Accept everything. Dont believe in any thought.
just accept that there is thoughts.
Try to remember what thought or frase that triggered this new way of seeing.
That may be your personal gateway into the absolute.
Sound fantastic. Good for you! So, now you have an opening into your true state. Use it.
Go there over and over. Until it becomes your natural state.
let me recall the last time this happened, not as a argh i want back, just to walk it trough. Last time (few months ago) there was just a aw so this it it. So simple. What normally happens is that thoughts start come up to analyse it or to celibrate that i finally got it etc etc. But there was thise time a seeing that those thoughts are what is making “it” not shining and obvious. So there was a sort of relaxation and a constant coming back to silence. No big deal, this time no mind jumping up and down yelling 🙂 this is IT!! or maybe coming up but also seeing it trough. Then i went to sleep.
Next morning all that is gone and life just is as normal, maybe a sweet taste of seeing but further just normal. There is a addiction here also to thoughts. I like the hights of the mind. I have a very up and down personality. And maybe because i like the ups and try to hold them, i also have to deal with the negative. Who knows.
Seriously i always used to search for THE TRUTH and still do sometimes. But more and more it seems there no THE TRUTH. Or better yet. All is truth. Every story u google happens somewhere. What i want to say is. That for every truth, there seems to be a other truth which doesn t match the first truth. Maybe there is no all compassing truth. These are just observations by the way.
Also life seems to work in circles. So same kinda stuff keeps looping back, kinda funny. I m really lighthearted and not serious when not in fear or depressed. But when the heavy stress./ fears are here the search to truth come back again. And then i listen to youtube movies. Looking for a truth that maybe can set me free. Doubting there is that truth. Than seeing a tony parsons peace or a tolle or whatever u wanna name. There is one thing i see that resonates finally after a while. And i get enthousiastic and all negativity falls away. Looking from detachment afterwards it s all kinda silly / funny.
Good thoughts, clear seeing here in what you write. About the one truth… I would say that there is only “what is”. And what that is, cant be dressed in words. But its is a sort of truth to “what is”. Its just what it is… So if antything is true It is “the actual state of things”, the actuality. As soon as we label it, then its something else… Dont look so much for it. Just “stay” in “what is”. Listen to it. 🙂 You wont hear much at first. But after a while in acceptance… things start to “happen”… Just stay in your most empty state of mind.
This is a nice text about TRUT by my friend.
http://hyperinactive.wordpress.com/disclaimer/
I have been using the term FreeFall with direction for over two years, if you have the space to explore it, it works. Nothing is expected, everything is a gain.
He he. Yes. I know.
Hi,
What do you mean exactly. ‘free fall with direction ‘ ? thank you
There is no direction. Nothing ever works. There is no goal. Attention makes Us blind.
But Free falling is the awakened Way of “living”.
Before you pick a direction… you must be enlightened. Or else you will be in trouble.
But as a means / method to reach your goals, you can of course free fall with direction. Meaning “living without a plan or a thought but with a goal”. Then you will reach it. But you will still be fucked…by your self and by your achievements…
Francis Lucille, like Greg Goode and Rupert Spira have their teachings heavily influenced by Atmananda Krishna Menon, which, unlike many other indian sages, was fluent in english and pretty good at writing.
Yes, I like Francis Lucille. His approach is scientific due to his background, and I know he calls his teaching Advaita or at leats advaita-related.
I dont Think he has got it all wrong. All teachings are missing the Point, due to attention and belief in the teaching. Still teachings can be helpful.
Finding the “most insignificant thing in universe” is hard, if one is looking/searching for it.
But to tell about the significance if the insignificant is probably good, as long as one makes sure that nobody Believes it.
Then when they encounter it for them self, they will recognice it and treasure it as the treasure it is.
The nothingness we can call it, even though “nothing” does not exist or not-exist.
Nothingness is just as made up as time and space and here and there.
😉 Skype me if you got a spare moment.
/joakim
Hi guys. Long time. How are you all doing. Free falling as the absolute?
Hi, Joakim!
Is there any method you recommend to “achieve” this pure seeing?
Many masters say there is nothing to do, but many also recommend something like Ramana’s self-enquiry.
I’ve been doing both mahasati (moving) meditation and self-enquiry. What are your thoughts about them?
Thanks!
Hi Rode,
In absolute terms there is nothing we can do to make the shift of consciousness come around. It either happens or it does´nt. I could tell you or someone else to “give up” or to “see things just as they are”. Any way or description is the same when it actually take place.
To put it simple, since this is the simplest thing – I would still say this:
put your full trust, in what you dont know anything about.
Thats it.
The term for describing the putting of the total trust in the unknown is commonly the term (having) “Faith”…
The meaning of having faith, is the opposite of “believing” or having strong belief.
Faith, you hav in the unknown. Faith is synonymous with taking full responsibility, for ones life. Not…not trusting in anyone.
Being IT. With no questions left. Just accepting the not knowing and accepting everything as it is. Even acceting that we know what we know (or seem to) and we dont know what we dont know.
What hapens then is that knowing and not knowing becomes the same thing.
And since we dont wonder about anything, we can see everything immediately and clear. No thoughts are there anymore to disturb the perception.
But the perception is that of “noone” or “the beeingness itself, not separate from anything, and with no sense of beeing an “I” or experiencing.
Still we can , I can (I use the word I) tell a story about it. Its a story that is not true, and there is neither an “I” telling the story or believing it. Still the story is told…
So, even if there is nothing “you” can do to make it happen, It is happening, and the circumstances surrounding you putting this question and me answering it, is what really happens.
These circumstances is the Karma – and Karma is a conceptual word for describing the two concepts intention and effect.
Your intention is not something you can accieve, and neither is the effect in this case, namely “my answear”.
But you did put the question and I answered it.
So, maybe a good advice is to relax, stop searching, and start finding.
UG Krishnamurti said: ” One thing I know, and that is that as long as we are searching for happieness, we will not find it”. Free interpretation of his words though..
I used to escape my troubles, by beeing in the “now”. Since I did that many times every day, I think maybe it helped me to come closer to just beeing. Maybe not.
Meditation is probably a good thing to do, though even if it does not make us enlightened it will help us find the harmony to certain exstent.
Surrender, or not believing ones own thoughts, is two meditations that I can recommend doing all the time, several months in a row.
Having faith, is another, and the same.
I read a few things by Jiddu Krishnamurti about self inquiery. It helped me to take my own reflections upon my own thoughts seriously. And maybe that helped me as well.
To drop it.
To stop becoming.
To have faith.
To see – what is.
What is actually there/here/everywhere.
It doesnt look very profound at first.
It looks like nothing.
But its the seeing of things as they are, that is the big change.
Thoughts will stop. Really… they will stop.
Some thoughts will come but you will see, that the thoughts are not your, or you. Its just. thoughts.
So, who are You? The questin that will make you see. You are nothing that you can put into some sort of conceptiual description.
You are the beeing of whatever you are. Namely the beeingness itself.
Not apart from anything.
Best whishes
/Joakim
The emptiness in a full expression, beyond the words, and still using words, pointing to ” that ” is happening. Who is pointing to ? What is he pointing to ? There is no unswer, there is no one to be conscious, only conscious is. So nice. !