Here is gods favourite joke:
A girl saw through her self. She saw she was not. She was baffled. Its so easy she said to the monk: “There is nothing to understand!”
“How do you mean?”, said the monk.
Gods best joke (for now)
27 Thursday Jun 2013
Posted in Self inquiry / mindfulness
Seeingwhatis 
If there were only one, then there would be no “if” and no jokes. If there are many and one, then “if is possible and jokes make sense. If, at present, there is both one and many then this blog makes sense, but not otherwise.
Of course there are many.
The question is: did you laugh at my joke?
Because its funny.
I know it funny. I wrote it and laught.
A quite arrogant laugh though.
I imagined people who think they are awake and pretend they are awakened reading my joke but not immediately getting it.
I gained their frustration.
You see, if you get this joke you are one of the many.
If not , then you are fast asleep.
If you get it, then you are me, playing games with my self.
If you don’t get it, then you are IF.
Then you exists allready, but only as a possibility.
Like language.
Before it was invented.
Like all possible future scenarios.
Like all realities.
Like all IF-THENS.
So does this make sense to you?
😉
Didn’t laugh, but smiled. A great post. Read a few posts on your blog but liked “God’s best joke” best. 🙂
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Well, I guess we really don’t have much to say. Still we keep talking.
I wrote in a state of unbecoming. During enlightenment writing is possible. After enlightenment we have to use metafores.
Why do you write?
You seem like a reasonable guy. That’s rare.
Do you think there is something we ought to do as humans. That there is something important to do?
Have you had any sudden changes of consciousness in your life.
Hi,
I write reflective essays that in some way relate to my experiences or insights about things. Oh yes, I think there is much we ought to do. I think the sense of “mission” is built into the soul. I touch on this in one of my posts:
Which is also the answer, or part of the answer, to your question about sudden changes of consciousness. The above piece derives from one specific experience I had when I was 24 years old; long time ago now. That was the most dramatic experience of my life. People talk about the life changing event of a “near death experience.” In my case, I think of it as a “near Life experience.”
Best Thoughts,
James
What does it matter if you are enlightened or not or if you know it or not as its not up to you is it. How much influence does a “you”have in understanding this joke or not.It is a private joke.
You are totally right. It doesn’t matter, because nothing matters. It just is, as it is. We cant Do anything about it. What we are, so called “enlightened” or so called “not enligjtened”… How silly it sounds. And one thing is clear: we are supposed to be just exactly what we are!
So. Did I piss you off Troye?
Didn’t mean to.
Or I don’t know.
I am an idiot.
Haven’t you understood that until now? 😉
Enlightenment…. Such bullshit.
But harmony is good.
How are you doing?
Joakim I love your posts and if I am annoyed by them it’s good , bring it on! 😀
I was thinking ,there is no way of knowing anyone let alone ourselves.
I don’t know Troye.
I can’t see that clear anymore.
I saw everything clear for a while. Now I really don’t know Shit.
I can’t tell if I am the absolute or not.
I have the capacity to act as a person, and why not use it.
But I know how un-important that person is except as used as a tool.
I guess that’s it, knowing that it doesn’t matter.Things. Are as they should. We can be the change. The cause. Not the effect. Not only the reaction.
Can we know our selves?
What do you think?
Please tell me something about your life.
A happy story.
When you first perceived the void did you get a fright ,was the abscence of movement scary. Do you dream now? I dream all the time and have woken up with “I am he” chanting over and over in my mind and this was after a man was talking to me about enlightenment as we walked next to a ocean in a dream.I once dreamed of a naked Godess with diamond nipples who had the earth in her breast. She told me that I would walk amongst people and they would wake up. Everyone wants to believe they are special. What are dreams? I am a mastering engineer, I make music sound better 😁. I love surfing and cycling. I visit with you because you will talk to me about these things and I like your otherwise ness.
Aha, nice job. You know, I had this lucid dream about the brass bell with no sound. After that I told a few that the sound of a brass bell was all there was toknow. No one understood of course.
It’s all there I said. In the sound. You can find the absolute there.. And in the point where an outbreath turns into an inbreath. Etc.
I stopped dreaming for maybe 4 months. Then I started dreaming more and more. I was a self taught lucid dreamer before, and could have conscious conversations with the characters in the dreams. I once asked a dream character: “Tell me something I don’t know about my self”. I had the question made up on forehand.
She answered: “you shine, there are beams of awearness coming out of you. You affect people…”
I was stunned…
By that moment it was clear to me that there were a consciousness that was deeper than my awareness (at the time)
I started questioning the “me” since there were obviously a me at work that I didn’t know of or identify with..
Now I dream. But not much. SometimesI put on a nicotine tape to my stomach just för the fun of having nightmares… (sounds crazy huh..)
My nightmares is a dead family walking towards me, ghosts, and the come closer and walk over me with their feet on my face. I don’t know who they are but I imagine they hate me and that I have hurt them or talked bad about them after their death, and that this is the punishment.
And I choose to dream that…
Sometimes I dream I meet mooji and we talk.
Last time he looked strange at me.
I asked: “do you notice?”
“yes”
“how”
“by how you move…”
“aha… Yes of course…”
I tend to move effortlessly nowadays… So, that’s how he saw the lack of effort…
Tonight I was talking in my sleep. I had a girl over for the night.
I happened to say “its all your fault!”
Then I heared my self and apologized… “oh, not you… Sorry…”
Crazy as a bummer, or how do people put it in english?
I think destroying my own credibility is probably a good thing. Both for me and for you. So that’s the mission of the present moment. Ha ha 😀
So yes I dream.
I loved your dreams. Thank you.
In a way I think they are totally true. Can’t say how though.
I will tell you a funny and very “real/unreal” story..
I just graduated from university.
Since there were no one there, even trying to pass, but also not trying to fail, the person called “joakim” was awarded with the highest grade, and also some sort of special honour kind of mention.
I don’t know how it was possible. Probably the laziest student ever, just wondering around telling people to take it easy, and suggesting that the examina was not important.
That pissed a few off. They even placed a bet that I would have a low grade. Now he owes me a box of beer. That we will share of course 😉
LOL
I dont believe in the “achievement” of course. If there were any quality to “my” work, then it was “what is” that delivered those qualities.
Working with no agenda at all. A strange thing to do. A new experience to the experiencer that may or may not be the whitness or the ego or both.
As I said, I don’t know anymore.
So come on, cheer me up.
An interesting story for the part of me who find pleasure in such. 😉
Does your state stay more neutral since you had your transformation. You mention ego in your varsity experience, does the personality go away. Obviously life isn’t as juicy if you are not being thrown about by past conditioning.Is there a purpose to the expression of you or is it just life living ,seeing ,through the form of your body.
My state is now like a flat line. I am in harmony allways.
I find that juicy though, because I am aware of every moment. That’s why life becomes so fashinating. And also because there is no meaning other than the isness of all this. As far as I can see.
I remember reading Tolle saying: “I neverget angry anymore”
I remember saying “that’s incredible, if it is really true. But how can it be…”
That’s the joy. I never get angry or even irritated. A few times anger have raised in me though. It was such a great force. I didn’t believe it and it went away.
I sometimes yell at my son though. But just because he needs to become a human with beliefs before leaving them if he manage to. That’s his life though. I don’t want to interfere by beeing a saint…
When I saw the self there was resistance and fear. Not much but I remember that there was some initially.
But mainly just a sort of relief. As if I could breath for the first time.
Maybe you have allready awakened… Have you thought about that?
Thank you for your replies, I am not awakened. When I started meditation I had this experience where there was no in breath or out breath and my heart stopped beating so I can relate to what you said about the breath. When I started experiencing things one of the first was waking up and not knowing how I related to my wife it was very scary I couldn’t feel her, it’s as if all the codependency was removed and I felt like a boat without a anchor. I also felt waves of dread and one moment I would be crying then sad ,this would continue for long periods.Here is a nice story , my grandpa was a medium and on the day I was born my dad called my grandpa and told him that I had just been born and my grandpa said that he knew that ,and that we had just been talking and we had been discussing the divinity of Christ. 😄 How’s that for funny!
I will now take a run and a swim in the sun.
I will read your comments later.
You asked about personality. Yes, it definately changed. On all accounts. But some maners still hang on. It’s just personality. It’s constitutioning. We need some maners don’t we. So some may stay.
But the lack in belief in separateness takes away desires etc. So people would describe you as somewhat or very different, after those beliefs are gone.
Thats fucking funny Troy, thanks!
🙂
Of course you are awakened. That’s what happens while awakening. Some grief and sorrow come up.
I started apologizing to everyone I had hurt, no matter if they hurt me more. I only saw a possibility to clear negativity out, and did.
Life is not a competition.
No one wins life.
Or…the winner loses, if there is one.
Just accept your insights. They sound real enough to me.
Hmm.
Do you like music?
I have a tip to a song that’s just incredible…
I like things like Cinematic Orchestra and Jazzanova. What do you like?
Troye:
The purpose, if there is such a thing… let’s call it the “benefit for man kind” instead… the benefit is that by becoming your true self, you can actually see how suffering and “negativity” disappears every time it comes your way.
So, your family will be happier. Your friends willslowly become happier. And their friends. And everyone who meets someone who met someone you have met.
It’s powerful. Trust me on that.
Or don’t ;-D
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